Countercurrent Podcast

About the Podcast: Countercurrent with Professor Roger Kneebone

A podcast for people who like the unexpected. Join the surgeon and academic Professor Roger Kneebone in conversation with unorthodox people whose careers defy traditional boundaries and who swim against the tide.

With grateful thanks to Justin Margovan for his expert production support for Countercurrent since the start.

Many of the people in Countercurrent feature in my book Expert: Understanding the Path to Mastery (Penguin Viking, 2020).

Available to listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Libsyn.

LATEST EPISODE

Nic Madge in conversation with Roger Kneebone

A first career as a human rights lawyer led to Nic becoming a district judge in the civil courts, then a circuit judge hearing criminal cases. After judging for 24 years Nic retired from the law and is now focusing on his interests in historical research, writing, photography and documentary film-making. He is actively involved in issues around the rights of indigenous peoples in South America and has recently returned from Colombia as part of a multinational delegation. His book The Infernal Tambopata: British Slavery in 20th Century Peru and Bolivia provides a historical exposé of a little known moment in Amazonian history and will be published by Liverpool University Press in November 2026. In this podcast we explore some of these many strands.
‍https://nicmadge.co.uk/about_me.php

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28/9/26

Mariá José Frápolli in conversation with Roger Kneebone

The philosopher María José Frápolli is Professor of Logic and Philosophy of Science at the University of Granada. Maria has held many senior roles, including professorships at major universities in the UK and Europe. In this podcast we explore the nature of her work and discuss the challenges of explaining the nature of philosophy and philosophical research to those outside the field.

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31/8/26

Tim Goode in conversation with Roger Kneebone

Rev Tim Goode is Residentiary Canon at York Minster. In this podcast we explore how his own experience of disability has shaped his role in the Anglican church, and discuss the ideas in his recent book Breaking Not Broken. https://scmpress.hymnsam.co.uk/books/9780334063162/breaking-not-broken

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17/11/25

Per Palmgren in conversation with Roger Kneebone

Per Palmgren is Associate Professor in Medical Education at Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, Sweden where he is the director of doctoral studies at the Department of Learning, Informatics, Management and Ethics. In addition to his work as an academic, Per is an award-winning ballroom dancer who has represented his country many times. He also teaches and adjudicates in dance competitions. In this conversation we explore these different instances of performing. https://ki.se/en/people/per-palmgren

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3/11/25

Deborah Safron in conversation with Roger Kneebone

Dr Deborah Safron is a sociologist and independent scholar who was brought up in America. As part of her research she is documenting the now abandoned practice of ‘reading vacations’ at Oxford University, and exploring how long-form reading might be revived - both for young people and those in retirement. We discuss how these ideas might help disadvantaged young people to experience intensive reading as they study, complementing the role of AI.

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14/10/2024

Emma Barker in conversation with Roger Kneebone

Dr Emma Barker is an art historian and academic who teaches and researches at the Open University. She specialises in eighteenth-century French art and she is currently exploring ideas around art and blindness. https://www.open.ac.uk/people/eb38

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01/08/2022

Jeff Bezemer in conversation with Roger Kneebone

Jeff Bezemer and I discuss our collaboration aimed at making sense of the operating theatre as a pedagogic space. Jeff’s background in applied linguistics and ethnomethodology gives him completely different perspectives from mine as a surgeon. In this podcast we explore points of intersection between our different ways of looking at professional contexts.

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18/03/2019

Professor Roberto di Napoli in conversation with Roger Kneebone

Roberto di Napoli graduated in modern languages and linguistics in Italy before developing a career in education which has taken him to many institutions. A gifted teacher, he is passionate about making complex educational concepts accessible to people with expertise in a wide range of domains. In this conversation we explore the roles of performance and human interaction in teaching and learning.

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